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General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.23 10:43:00 - [1] I actually don't know what the hell all the fuss is about. Do you honestly NOT expect CCP to look at how best to maximise profit? You're all insanely naive if so. Not one thing in that document was shocking or surprising. Except for some of the page design. CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.23 10:54:00 - [2] Originally by: Nikki West Originally by: General Windypops I actually don't know what the hell all the fuss is about. Do you honestly NOT expect CCP to look at how best to maximise profit? You're all insanely naive if so. Not one thing in that document was shocking or surprising. Except for some of the page design. EVE is already a cash cow - A BIG ONE. Not only does it have a subscription based model with decent player base. It ALSO has a built-in RMT model where players can buy extra game time via GTC/PLEX and sell it for ISK, which adds a lot of extra revenue for ÇÇP. So yea, we have a right to be angry when they introduce yet another layer of income. I can't think of any other game that wants to milk this much money from player-base. What utter nonsense. You honestly didn't expect game developers to be looking at options like this? Every single MMO developer is having exactly the same conversations that CCP are. And some of them are changing already - look at what happened with LOTRO's F2P. CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.23 11:01:00 - [3] Originally by: Nikki West Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: Nikki West Originally by: General Windypops I actually don't know what the hell all the fuss is about. Do you honestly NOT expect CCP to look at how best to maximise profit? You're all insanely naive if so. Not one thing in that document was shocking or surprising. Except for some of the page design. EVE is already a cash cow - A BIG ONE. Not only does it have a subscription based model with decent player base. It ALSO has a built-in RMT model where players can buy extra game time via GTC/PLEX and sell it for ISK, which adds a lot of extra revenue for ÇÇP. So yea, we have a right to be angry when they introduce yet another layer of income. I can't think of any other game that wants to milk this much money from player-base. What utter nonsense. You honestly didn't expect game developers to be looking at options like this? Every single MMO developer is having exactly the same conversations that CCP are. And some of them are changing already - look at what happened with LOTRO's F2P. What did happen to LOTRO? They completely removed subscription fees and switched to a different model. They didn't add MTs on top of subscriptions because that would be insane - which is what ÇÇP is doing. And they charge for expansions. CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.23 13:17:00 - [4] Originally by: Othran Originally by: G0rdon Gekko Precisely. I wasn't joking when I said that. I think some people are just too dumb and overexcited to notice that. You might care to note that one of the viewpoints (pro MT) was the lead game designer for Eve. The other wasn't. Also post with your main if you're going to do damage control for your company. I don't get what the hell your point has to do with it. I am the Online Marketing Director for a very large UK company and at one of my last direct report away days I led a discussion on why we should immediately take down our websites. The purpose was for us to help understand exactly what role our web presence played, and what our priorities were. It's actually fairly good management practice to encourage your staff to explore radical, sometimes shocking options to encourage them to think more creatively. Lots of people misquoting and partially quoting what was in essence a very artificial agent provocateur style article. CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.23 13:27:00 - [5] Originally by: leth ghost Originally by: Iloni Atoriandra No one is forcing you to get a monocle, if you are rich then get one and if you are a poor scrub who shouldnt be wearing a monocle then dont because you cant and are poor. it will be people like you that stay and get milked for your $$ as ccp carry out there plans for the future Sounds good. Would be nice to get rid of all the whining cheapskate bleaters. CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.23 13:33:00 - [6] Edited by: General Windypops on 23/06/2011 13:33:07 Originally by: Othran Looking at Rens local I would guess its about 50:50. Plenty of people saying that they'd rather pay than "grind". You've clearly never been to Deklein. CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.23 13:36:00 - [7] Looks pretty certain that Seleene leaked it. CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.23 13:43:00 - [8] Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: leth ghost Originally by: Iloni Atoriandra No one is forcing you to get a monocle, if you are rich then get one and if you are a poor scrub who shouldnt be wearing a monocle then dont because you cant and are poor. it will be people like you that stay and get milked for your $$ as ccp carry out there plans for the future Sounds good. Would be nice to get rid of all the whining cheapskate bleaters. Lol this is rich, would have taken you for a troll, if I knew you were not serious. Clearly, a fair access too all of the games content for our subscriptions without paying extra RL money is begin "cheapskate". It has nothing to do about beign "cheap". Get your head out of you ass :) It's not a troll in the slightest. I have more money than you in real life, but less time than most of you because I have a higher powered job. Is it fair that I should be penalised by NOT having things in game just because you have a less successful career? CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.23 14:00:00 - [9] Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 23/06/2011 13:56:52 Originally by: General Windypops It's not a troll in the slightest. I have more money than you in real life, but less time than most of you because I have a higher powered job. Is it fair that I should be penalised by NOT having things in game just because you have a less successful career? Dumbest thing I heard. First a baseless assumption about me. Then an assumptions that you should get treated differently then me becuase "you are richer and got a more powerful job in RL and not the same time for games that I have". As I said, get your head out of you ass :) you are clearly disconnected to what the issue is about, and you somehow think you are better then others becuse you "got a fansy job" as is entitld to different treatment. :P Sad. Not baseless at all. I looked at your poor spelling, combined that with the fact that you clearly don't understand corporate marketing and sales planning and made a perfectly reasonable conjecture. It is entirely right and reasonable that people with more money can buy themselves better stuff. CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.23 14:27:00 - [10] Originally by: Darveses Did someone just take Windypops seriously If I'd known it was so much fun over here I'd have moved out from CAOD years ago... CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.23 15:39:00 - [11] I feel bad to say it, given how angry you lot clearly are, but I actually would really quite like a monocle. CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.23 15:42:00 - [12] Edited by: General Windypops on 23/06/2011 15:42:30 Originally by: Chagaline Effective crisis communication strategies will typically consider achieving most, if not all, of the following objectives: Maintain connectivity FAIL Be readily accessible to the news media FAIL Show empathy for the people involved FAIL Allow distributed access FAIL Streamline communication processes FAIL Maintain information security FAIL Ensure uninterrupted audit trails FAIL Support multi-channel communications FAIL Remove dependencies on paper based processes FAIL hey CCP, WTB communication staff? Trying to sound wise and informed on an internet forum will typically involve most, if not all, of the following activities: - Copying and pasting something you googled [SUCCESS] - Clicking submit with a sense of smug fulfillment. [SUCCESS} CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:23:00 - [13] Originally by: MrSteack Failheap pt2: There is no real discussion at CCP, and there hasn't been for quite a while. Like Seleene said, the majority of employees get told squad, don't know what's going on, quite a few have become complete apathetic to what's being decided even. In the end, it's just a job, and they are actively encouraged in that direction. They aren't asked for their opinion and even if they'd have one, or wanted to ventilate one, there's nowhere to go with it. They are just there to concentrate on their thing, and applaud there rest, and basically drink the coolaid. Most stopped caring quite some time ago. And that is mostly because the 'leadership' (hard to talk about leadership when it's become so incompetent but what other word is there?) is by now entirely 'personified'. Call it little kingdoms, call it cliques, call it whatever you like, there are just a couple of people who really have an influence, and although that's not bad in and off itself, they stopped listening to everyone else but to those who tell them what they like to hear (read Stoffer) or who tell them funny things. This was the case when :18months: happened, and just like now, CCP circled the wagons, and it just got worse. Moreover, what came out here now, was already common knowledge for quite some time at CCP internally, so quite a lot of the good guys, the guys with options to go somewhere else, well, they have packed their bags, or they are quite busy packing their bags. Why am I telling you this? Well, because I think it is important that you understand that it is basically over. This may be EVE's NGE moment, it may not be, we don't know yet, but one thing should be clear. This magazine is a clear reflection of how CCP think internally. And once you realise that, it is clear that for EVE it is over. Perhaps just for me, I can accept that not everyone will agree with me on this, but this way of thinking 'breaks' EVE. It is fundamentally flawed, and it will only get worse over time. CCP the company is, in my view falling apart, and so is EVE with it. And frankly, I don't see how it can be stopped, not any more. And no amount of circling the wagons can stop this from happening. Not if half of your cowboys are basically joining the Indians while you do it. Lot's of slippery slope analogies can be made but really, it's all downhill from here. I'm enjoying the sight, but only because I'm well away from the boulders really. Hahah if you believe that's genuine then you probably believe horoscopes too. Fan fiction forum is thattaway sonny. Some people really are utterly stupid and gullible. CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:31:00 - [14] Originally by: Constantinus Maximus Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: MrSteack Failheap pt2: There is no real discussion at CCP, and there hasn't been for quite a while. Like Seleene said, the majority of employees get told squad, don't know what's going on, quite a few have become complete apathetic to what's being decided even. In the end, it's just a job, and they are actively encouraged in that direction. They aren't asked for their opinion and even if they'd have one, or wanted to ventilate one, there's nowhere to go with it. They are just there to concentrate on their thing, and applaud there rest, and basically drink the coolaid. Most stopped caring quite some time ago. And that is mostly because the 'leadership' (hard to talk about leadership when it's become so incompetent but what other word is there?) is by now entirely 'personified'. Call it little kingdoms, call it cliques, call it whatever you like, there are just a couple of people who really have an influence, and although that's not bad in and off itself, they stopped listening to everyone else but to those who tell them what they like to hear (read Stoffer) or who tell them funny things. This was the case when :18months: happened, and just like now, CCP circled the wagons, and it just got worse. Moreover, what came out here now, was already common knowledge for quite some time at CCP internally, so quite a lot of the good guys, the guys with options to go somewhere else, well, they have packed their bags, or they are quite busy packing their bags. Why am I telling you this? Well, because I think it is important that you understand that it is basically over. This may be EVE's NGE moment, it may not be, we don't know yet, but one thing should be clear. This magazine is a clear reflection of how CCP think internally. And once you realise that, it is clear that for EVE it is over. Perhaps just for me, I can accept that not everyone will agree with me on this, but this way of thinking 'breaks' EVE. It is fundamentally flawed, and it will only get worse over time. CCP the company is, in my view falling apart, and so is EVE with it. And frankly, I don't see how it can be stopped, not any more. And no amount of circling the wagons can stop this from happening. Not if half of your cowboys are basically joining the Indians while you do it. Lot's of slippery slope analogies can be made but really, it's all downhill from here. I'm enjoying the sight, but only because I'm well away from the boulders really. Hahah if you believe that's genuine then you probably believe horoscopes too. Fan fiction forum is thattaway sonny. Some people really are utterly stupid and gullible. Considering it matches the opinions of 9 different employees on that employment survey site posted early there is not much question. oh the troll ccp alt guy, shouldn't have even bothered to reply. What do you mean 'matches'. All the guys done is post a very vague made up description with no actual factual details and using only info that's already in the public domain. If you're so desperately gullible that you'll believe it then fair play to you. Tell your fortune for one monocle, sir. CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:55:00 - [15] Originally by: Malachi256 It would be interesting to hear comments from representatives of some of the big corporations. Does this change anything, will there be a disruption of corp leadership, etc. Errr... why? As previously mentioned many time there's almost no discussion of this at all in the main alliances, and they really couldn't care less. CCP is a company. With shareholders. Of course they're here to make money. Not seen a single person in game saying they were even bothered, let alone quitting. CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.23 20:54:00 - [16] The thing is, what's the point of a monocle without a pipe to wiggle while you put the monocle in? CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.23 20:56:00 - [17] Edited by: General Windypops on 23/06/2011 20:56:45 Originally by: Silicon Sailor 2 THOUSAND posts? Good lord ... what's the record? To be fair, at least 1,320 of them are Miillla informing us that she's very angry and has cancelled the brainstorming for some crappy app she was going to maybe think about building. CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.23 21:19:00 - [18] How can we possibly replace the 20 or so of you that are quitting???????????? CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.

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